Jordan B Peterson Part Two: The Unravelling

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Summary <p>This week, it’s part two of the riddle of <strong>Jordan B Peterson</strong>, the bestselling author and culture warrior. <a href="https://twitter.com/IanDunt"><strong>Ian Dunt</strong></a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Dorianlynskey"><strong>Dorian Lynskey</strong></a> dig into his two megasellers, <em>12 Rules for Life</em> and <em>Beyond Order</em>, and try to understand why these very strange cocktails of self-help advice, comparative mythology and biological essentialism resonated with millions of readers, especially men and boys. </p><p>Do his ideas add up to a coherent view of how to live? How does he reconcile mythology with zoology? What on earth is “postmodern neo-Marxism”? And what is it with Peterson and Pinocchio? </p><p>Dorian and Ian discuss how the man with so many rules for life wound up at the end of his tether in a Russian hospital, and how to reconcile his books with his increasingly eccentric and extreme social media presence. Is he really an intellectual at all?</p><p><br></p><p>Support<strong> Origin Story on Patreon</strong> for exclusive benefits: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/originstorypod">www.Patreon.com/originstorypod</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>Reading list for both episodes:</u></strong></p><p>Books:</p><p>Ben Burgis, Conrad Hamilton, Matthew McManus and Marion Trejo — Myth and Mayhem: A Leftist Critique of Jordan Peterson, 2020</p><p>Jordan B Peterson — Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief, 1999</p><p>Jordan B Peterson — 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, 2018</p><p>Jordan B Peterson — Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, 2021</p><p>Sandra Woien, ed. — Critical Responses to Jordan Peterson, 2022</p><p>Online:</p><p>Jason McBride — ‘The Pronoun Warrior’, Toronto Life, 2017</p><p><a href="https://torontolife.com/city/u-t-professor-sparked-vicious-battle-gender-neutral-pronouns/">https://torontolife.com/city/u-t-professor-sparked-vicious-battle-gender-neutral-pronouns/</a></p><p>David Brooks — ‘The Jordan Peterson Moment’, The New York Times, 2018</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/opinion/jordan-peterson-moment.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/opinion/jordan-peterson-moment.html</a></p><p>Dorian Lynskey — ‘How dangerous is Jordan Peterson, the rightwing professor who “hit a hornets’ nest”?’, The Guardian, 2018</p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest">https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest</a></p><p>Kelefa Sanneh — ‘Jordan Peterson’s Gospel of Masculinity’, The New Yorker, 2018</p><p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/jordan-petersons-gospel-of-masculinity">https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/jordan-petersons-gospel-of-masculinity</a></p><p>Pankaj Mishra — ‘Jordan Peterson &amp; Fascist Mysticism’, The New York Review of Books, 2018</p><p><a href="https://www.nybooks.com/online/2018/03/19/jordan-peterson-and-fascist-mysticism/">https://www.nybooks.com/online/2018/03/19/jordan-peterson-and-fascist-mysticism/</a></p><p>Nellie Bowles — ‘Jordan Peterson, Custodian of the Patriarchy’, The New York Times, 2018</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html</a></p><p>Vinay Menon — ‘Jordan Peterson is trying to make sense of the world — including his own strange journey’, Toronto Star, 2018</p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20191219104703/https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2018/03/16/jordan-peterson-is-trying-to-make-sense-of-the-world-including-his-own-strange-journey.html">https://web.archive.org/web/20191219104703/https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2018/03/16/jordan-peterson-is-trying-to-make-sense-of-the-world-including-his-own-strange-journey.html</a></p><p>Bernard Schiff — ‘I was Jordan Peterson’s strongest supporter. Now I think he’s dangerous’, Toronto Star, 2018</p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200115120600/https:/www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html">https://web.archive.org/web/20200115120600/https:/www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html</a></p><p>Johanna Thomas-Corr — ‘Jordan Peterson, Agent of Chaos’, The New Statesman, 2021</p><p><a href="https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2023/02/jordan-peterson-agent-chaos-psychology">https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2023/02/jordan-peterson-agent-chaos-psychology</a></p><p>James Marriott — ‘Beyond Order by Jordan Peterson review’, The Times, 2021</p><p><a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/beyond-order-by-jordan-b-peterson-review-qnhtgs2zj">https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/beyond-order-by-jordan-b-peterson-review-qnhtgs2zj</a></p><p>Helen Lewis — ‘What Happened to Jordan Peterson?’, The Atlantic, 2021</p><p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/04/what-happened-to-jordan-peterson/618082/">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/04/what-happened-to-jordan-peterson/618082/</a></p><p><br></p><p><em>Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt. Audio production by Simon Williams. Music by Jade Bailey. Logo art by Mischa Welsh. Lead Producer is Anne-Marie Luff. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. </em><strong><em>Origin Story is a Podmasters production.</em></strong></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/OriginStorycast">https://twitter.com/OriginStorycast</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>

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